tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.comments2014-09-08T14:54:50.847-07:00Better Exegesisbeliever333http://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-60213895628629361042014-09-08T14:54:50.847-07:002014-09-08T14:54:50.847-07:00sorry I didn't see this until now. I will thi...sorry I didn't see this until now. I will think on it. a bit busy these days though. <br />believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-39391884437599436412014-03-03T21:53:13.605-08:002014-03-03T21:53:13.605-08:00Could someone correct this http://christianstudies...Could someone correct this http://christianstudies.wordpress.com/2011/05/07/does-kephale-mean-source/ ignoramus on all his flawed argumentsEric Breauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17011444899329438810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-4527130513386468502013-01-11T22:02:07.049-08:002013-01-11T22:02:07.049-08:00I can't get it to pull up?I can't get it to pull up? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-88106501193423202302011-02-09T11:05:46.032-08:002011-02-09T11:05:46.032-08:00In modern thinking we think of the metaphor of ...In modern thinking we think of the metaphor of 'head' as relative to thinking and control. Of course this would logically imply that men need to think for women, make their decisions for them, control them, etc. which is unacceptable.<br /><br />In the era of the time of the epistles, the metaphor of 'head' had a few different connotations. One was that of point man, protector, one in front, representation, source of provision, etc. Context of what else is said helps us to discern its use.<br /><br />On the subject of wives, the metaphor is twofold. Wife is to view husband as if she were her head (it’s a metaphor remember) and husband is to view wife as if she were his body (he’s already got a real body remember). The relationship is one of connection since it is ‘head of’ (not over) and ‘body of’ (not under). Seeing that the end is that a man must cleave to his wife so that the two will become one flesh (Gen. 2:24) what we can see inferred is that husband and wife should be mutually supportive (submitted to one another vs. 21) in such a manner that they live as one unified body.<br /><br />Modern headship thinking comes to these passages with the implication already in their minds that its all about authority and completely misses the beauty and encouragement inherent here.<br /><br />The key passages of ‘gender authority’ are both misconstrued by gender hierarchalists just as the Ephesian passages are.<br /><br />If you would like to discuss them here, I’ll check this blog more often.believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-21768656120615458092011-02-03T06:35:56.440-08:002011-02-03T06:35:56.440-08:00Just some preliminary thoughts;
Doesn't even...Just some preliminary thoughts; <br /><br />Doesn't even the 'head-body' metaphor indicate a sense of control? Even in a literal sense, the head (brain) has control over the body. <br /><br />To insert 'Mutuality' as the real message in the kephale passages is a greater stretch than the modern 'headship' understanding. <br /><br />I think 'unity' and 'agreement' are essential elements of our relationships with God and others that don't conflict with authority.<br /><br />The key passages gender authority is based on (1 Cor. 14:34-35 and 1 Tim. 2:11-12) do not even use the word kephale.<br /><br />My wife and I lived in HI for 25 years, and I loved diving there!<br /><br />God Bless!Gregory Kirschmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17077958945679004412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-3321932519698419492010-12-06T16:37:50.262-08:002010-12-06T16:37:50.262-08:00Good job. I like your take on submission.
I hav...Good job. I like your take on submission.<br /><br /><br /><br />I have linked to your blog TL.<br /><br />keep in touch.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-39874794190935553372010-11-20T09:44:04.183-08:002010-11-20T09:44:04.183-08:00Excellent post! I have just found your blog and am...Excellent post! I have just found your blog and am delighted. I will link to this post from my blog as I am presently posting on submission. You have given us great linguistic support for what I am working with in the posts. I do have some Greek and continue to work with it, but am delighted to see it done for us so well here. I will return to read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-67087013351789318002010-05-26T09:42:18.102-07:002010-05-26T09:42:18.102-07:00I think the idea you mention about seeking Christ&...I think the idea you mention about seeking Christ's will daily is a very unhelpful one. But unfortunately it is all too common among Christians.Matthew Celestinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-56449199647892432372010-04-18T01:06:52.913-07:002010-04-18T01:06:52.913-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-43638119752101404662010-04-09T21:29:53.283-07:002010-04-09T21:29:53.283-07:00Thank you for asking. I attended a Lutheran semin...Thank you for asking. I attended a Lutheran seminary. Where are you planning on attending. <br /><br />It is an interesting thing that while seminaries are wonderful places of learning, they can sometimes be dangerous also. We are to rely upon God for our direction. And ultimately we are also to rely upon God via the HS for our learning. Fellow believers can get us started, but we are responsible for what we believe. One of the more important things I learned in my seminary training was how to study the Bible for myself, how to research, and how to listen to other's research. It's not possible to learn everything at once. But Greek and Hebrew knowledge is quite important. I wish that I had taken them. I'm learning online now. As well, do your best not to get stuck into a specific belief paradigm. Many Christians have said important things, but they've all made mistakes somewhere. You'll make some of your own, so no sense compounding it with other's mistakes as well.<br /><br />If you are called to serve the Body of Christ in sheparding them toward a closer relationship with God, it is imperative that your relationship with the Lord be deep and intimate.believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-48006483149577805472010-04-09T20:47:53.094-07:002010-04-09T20:47:53.094-07:00Thank you for this post. I am preparing to attend...Thank you for this post. I am preparing to attend seminary and while I do feel that God is calling me to fulfill the role of shepherd in some capacity I am excited to reflect on the truth that everyone has a role to serve and the better we become at waiting on the Holy Spirit and allowing Him to do His work the more alive our church bosy will be. That will be something I think about carefully as I enter full time ministry. Thank you. Where did you attend seminary? Any wisdom you cans hare someone at the beginning of the road? I can be reached at philip.cooley@gmail.comPhilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05271558398445718164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-79017355399835000022009-04-25T03:57:00.000-07:002009-04-25T03:57:00.000-07:00Excellent post! Had my share of trying to live as...Excellent post! Had my share of trying to live as lesser slave of man and it wasn't fun. This was all due to ridiculous and evil teaching that I and my husband believed and now no longer believe and are much happier and more loving toward one another!julhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15688008902332240637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-33327330502299527942009-02-17T16:28:00.000-08:002009-02-17T16:28:00.000-08:00You are understanding me correctly. :)Thank you f...You are understanding me correctly. :)<BR/><BR/>Thank you for commenting. <BR/><BR/>I've seen you around somewhere.....believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-36943791188529852932009-02-17T16:15:00.000-08:002009-02-17T16:15:00.000-08:00Beautiful post. I like the way you very clearly ou...Beautiful post. I like the way you very clearly outline why and how head/body is about interdependence.<BR/><BR/>I particularly like the way you (if I am understanding correctly) would be happy to do away with the term "headship" when talking about Christian relationships. Me, too! As I've mentioned elsewhere--and perhaps you are the one who mentioned this first, as I think I read it somewhere, and the idea does not originate with me--we do not discuss "bodyship". The body is also mentioned: Is it not also important?<BR/><BR/>The use of the term "headship" simply is not valid in the way that Christians apply it, in the context of the way we relate with one another (particularly between the genders), and we cannot fully understand the headship of God, seeing as we are merely human. To stop using it altogether would be beneficial in a number of ways.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Not that I have an opinion on this subject. ;-) Thank you for writing!Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07206888495081361453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-35156768425103837702008-11-30T19:33:00.000-08:002008-11-30T19:33:00.000-08:00"God uses the broken and rejected to build his Kin..."God uses the broken and rejected to build his Kingdom, by healing them so they can be his agent to heal others."<BR/><BR/>Don this so true. I often think about how easy it is to forget that Jesus Christ knows exactly what those who suffer are going through because HE became 100% human while 100% God.Linhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04723395060585207854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-31185492479833774042008-11-24T18:42:00.000-08:002008-11-24T18:42:00.000-08:00Nice you dropped by. :) glad to "see" you.Nice you dropped by. :) glad to "see" you.believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-49015200721703076772008-11-24T18:22:00.000-08:002008-11-24T18:22:00.000-08:00hey TL nice blog. I'll be linking to it on my blog...hey TL nice blog. I'll be linking to it on my blog.<BR/><BR/>good see you. I didn't know you had a blog. <BR/><BR/>It is I, metacrock.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-45782794464300811812008-11-24T15:35:00.000-08:002008-11-24T15:35:00.000-08:00Thank you Molly. Your kind words are very appreci...Thank you Molly. Your kind words are very appreciated. <BR/><BR/>huggles back! :)believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-76160592636813254232008-11-24T14:42:00.000-08:002008-11-24T14:42:00.000-08:00((((hugs))))I'm delighted to know you and feel hon...((((hugs))))<BR/><BR/>I'm delighted to know you and feel honored to get to have this glimpse into your personal journey.Alaskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05493872411356521812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-47056322960970115812008-11-23T11:08:00.000-08:002008-11-23T11:08:00.000-08:00God uses the broken and rejected to build his King...God uses the broken and rejected to build his Kingdom, by healing them so they can be his agent to heal others.Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05247071840577399185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-20824991934523519542008-11-23T08:08:00.000-08:002008-11-23T08:08:00.000-08:00Thank you for your kind words Lin.It's interesting...Thank you for your kind words Lin.<BR/><BR/>It's interesting the way life works sometimes. We suffer. Through God's help we find healing. The healing gives us insight and compassion for others. And then people say we are a blessing, because we spread hope.<BR/><BR/>Curious, eh! :^)believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-26542813008236041032008-11-23T06:54:00.000-08:002008-11-23T06:54:00.000-08:00God Bless you, sister! You are an encouragement to...God Bless you, sister! You are an encouragement to many.Linhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04723395060585207854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-46085975905915174742008-08-11T00:28:00.000-07:002008-08-11T00:28:00.000-07:00Thanks Rachel. i rarely post here anymore. Altho...Thanks Rachel. i rarely post here anymore. Although i am thinking i might get back to it.<BR/><BR/>check out equalitycentral.com/forum<BR/><BR/><BR/>grace and peace ...believer333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-16767857956263351292008-07-13T14:28:00.000-07:002008-07-13T14:28:00.000-07:00I've only just discovered you and want to thank yo...I've only just discovered you and want to thank you for all your hard work - I will put a link to this site on my site <BR/>http://hrht-revisingreform.blogspot.com<BR/>if that's okay.<BR/>Every blessing<BR/>RachelRev R Marszalekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831340057673771787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31851832.post-1155490697623773272006-08-13T10:38:00.000-07:002006-08-13T10:38:00.000-07:00Well, now we know it works. LOLWell, now we know it works. LOLbeliever333https://www.blogger.com/profile/03480546499577897857noreply@blogger.com